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		<title>Revamped Donovan&#8217;s Pub of Bayside Still Can&#8217;t Match Pre-Renovation Burger</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before you jump all over NYC Food Guy, I admit, it was a good burger. It was juicy, cooked to order, and the onions, despite not being up to par with the pre-renovation style, were better than my previous visit.  In the end though, it just wasn&#8217;t as good as pre-renovation. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you jump all over NYC Food Guy, I admit, it was a good burger. It was juicy, cooked to order, and the onions, despite not being up to par with the pre-renovation style, were better than my previous visit.  In the end though, it just wasn&#8217;t as good as pre-renovation. <b></b></p>
<p><b>The burger patty wasn&#8217;t as big, the bun was burnt, the onions were too greasy and not burnt enough, and the ketchup situation was dismal.</b> No more bottles of Heinz, just little thimbles of ketchup which we had to ask for more of at least 6 times. King of Ketchup was furious. Our waitress even admitted she hates that ketchup isn&#8217;t served in bottle.</p>
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<p>In the end, after eating a renovated Donovan&#8217;s of Bayside burger for the second time, I was pleased but not wowed. The burger certainly stuck with me like it used to (I tasted fried onion the rest of the day) but it wasn&#8217;t up to par with pre-renovation. I don&#8217;t know what they changed in the kitchen but it&#8217;s just not the same. If I want the authentic, no frills Donovan&#8217;s Burger experience, I&#8217;m going to head to Woodside where it all started.</p>
<h2>Read on for more greasy burger pics or check out my first review <a href="http://nycfoodguy.com/2007/11/23/done-ovans-revamped-donovans-pub-of-bayside-tarnishes-top-burger-rep/" target="_blank">here</a>&#8230;</h2>
<p><span id="more-413"></span> Here&#8217;s a shot of the onions this time around. I wish I had a picture of the sauteed variety from last time, it&#8217;s a complete turnaround. The first visit, about a week after the renovation was completed, I was offered frizzled onions (<a href="http://nycfoodguy.com/2007/11/23/done-ovans-revamped-donovans-pub-of-bayside-tarnishes-top-burger-rep/" target="_blank">seen here</a>) or sauteed <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"></span>onions. I mentioned my disappointment to the manager and I&#8217;m glad to see they stepped up and brought the old onions back. Even though they were overly greasy and not too crispy, it&#8217;s better than the previous visit.</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s the burger as stacked. You can see the blood from my medium rare patty on the bottom bun. The ordinary bun couldn&#8217;t really handle this kind of juice and when I picked up the burger it was pretty sloppy</p>
<p>.<a href="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/donovans-part-2-012.jpg" title="donovans-part-2-012.jpg"><img src="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/donovans-part-2-012.jpg" alt="donovans-part-2-012.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>Not that it&#8217;s a bad thing but the burger was pretty sloppy on the inside too, as you can see from this cross section.</p>
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<p>And last but certainly not least, here&#8217;s a shot of the multitude of ketchup cups we had to go through to finally get our fix. We kept asking for more and they would bring one or two at a time. Not cool.  The worst part of it all is that these were obviously pre-made cups because some of the ketchup arrived with a layer of water on the top, a result of just sitting around.</p>
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<address><span class="itemText"><span class="itemStreet">21416 41st Ave 			</span> 			 				<span class="itemIntersection">at Bell Blvd</span></span></address>
<address><span class="itemText"><span class="itemIntersection"></span><span class="itemNeighborhood">Bayside, NY 11361</span></span></address>
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		<title>DONE-ovan&#8217;s? Revamped Donovan&#8217;s Pub of Bayside tarnishes top-Burger rep</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 04:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The NYC Food Guy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though it was always the Woodside branch of Donovan&#8217;s Pub that garnered Top Burger in NYC Ranks from Time Out New York, I lived closer to the Bayside branch, which prior to this past summer, served an equally delicious Bacon Cheeseburger with fried onions. 
I returned to the re-opened Bayside branch with low expectations even [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though it was always the <a href="http://www.queenstribune.com/archives/diningguide/diningguide.htm" target="_blank">Woodside branch</a> of Donovan&#8217;s Pub that garnered <a href="http://www.timeout.com/newyork/DetailsAr.do?file=/features/480/480.thetopten.html" target="_blank">Top Burger in NYC Ranks</a> from Time Out New York, I lived closer to the Bayside branch, which prior to this past summer, served an equally delicious <strong>Bacon Cheeseburger with fried onions. </strong></p>
<p>I returned to the re-opened Bayside branch with low expectations even after our waitress assured us the burger recipe had remained unchanged. But deep down I knew, just from the look of the new place, that it would never be the same and boy was I right&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/top-pic-burger-montage-2-pics.jpg" title="top-pic-burger-montage-2-pics.jpg"><img src="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/top-pic-burger-montage-2-pics.jpg" alt="top-pic-burger-montage-2-pics.jpg" /></a></p>
<p><strong>Bacon Cheeseburger ($9.95)</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/donovans-grill-tavern-bacon-on-burger-close-up-good-compressed.jpg" title="donovans-grill-tavern-bacon-on-burger-close-up-good-compressed.jpg"><br />
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<p><strong>Donovan&#8217;s Pub is gone.</strong> What now exists is <strong>Donovan&#8217;s Grill &amp; Tavern</strong>, a place where ambiance and setting are valued over a top-notch burger.</p>
<p>Before I get all nostalgic, here&#8217;s my <strong>one complaint that pretty much kills the burger for me:</strong></p>
<p>Despite the <a href="http://www.timesledger.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19004532&amp;BRD=2676&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=551067&amp;rfi=6" target="_blank">new owners</a> claim that the burger recipe remained the same, the one thing that did not was the fried onions. The change resulted in frizzled onion strings with a taste reminiscent of <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/carolinediego/519900126/" target="_blank">Outback&#8217;s Bloomin&#8217; Onion.</a>  Here are the new Donovan&#8217;s onions:</p>
<p><a href="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/donovans-grill-tavern-fried-onions.jpg" title="donovans-grill-tavern-fried-onions.jpg"><img src="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/donovans-grill-tavern-fried-onions.jpg" alt="donovans-grill-tavern-fried-onions.jpg" /></a><a href="http://nycfoodguy.com/?attachment_id=116" rel="attachment wp-att-116" title="donovans-grill-tavern-fried-onions.jpg"> </a></p>
<p>We also ordered some sauteed onions which were long, flimsy strands of Vidalia onion spiced with salt and a little black pepper. It didn&#8217;t hurt the burger but it didn&#8217;t add the deliciousness of the old onions.</p>
<p><strong>A word on the formerly perfect onions </strong>(<a href="http://www.jahanbini.com/BurgerClub/viewtopic.php?t=3" target="_blank">you can sort of see them here</a>): The old onions were finely chopped, fried until the edges were dark brown and caramelized, yet crispy and oniony in the middle.  Delicious enough to eat on their own when you&#8217;re burger was finished. The onions were cooked in a way that you could mush them all together into a wad of fried onion if you wanted to.   The best part was probably the post-meal burp which stuck with you for a few hours; oniony, meaty, bacony, fire-grilled beefy, french fry-ee (got carried away) and overall, you guessed it, delicious.</p>
<p><strong>Back to the present day burger:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/donovans-grill-tavern-handheld-burger-compressed.jpg" title="donovans-grill-tavern-handheld-burger-compressed.jpg"><img src="http://nyceats.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/donovans-grill-tavern-handheld-burger-compressed.jpg" alt="donovans-grill-tavern-handheld-burger-compressed.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>Joe Donovan owned the Bayside Branch for 28 years before selling it this past summer. His burgers were comprised of a custom blend of meats (possibly sirloin and brisket) procured from local butchers. When cooked on the broiler to a perfect medium rare and combined with bacon, cheese, and fried chopped onion, it was pretty much heaven on earth. All the flavors melding together in a heavenly confluence of bacony, oniony, flame-broiled goodness.</p>
<p>The present burger remains meaty, but it&#8217;s an overpowering meat flavor. Gone is aforementioned heavenly confluence of flavor.  <strong>The bacon, </strong>formerly hearty, crisp, and deep fried in the spirit of <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/scuzzi/223436522/" target="_blank">Corner Bistro</a>, now seems merely griddled and kind of brittle.</p>
<p>One thing they did do right was cook it to order, medium rare all the way baby. Look at the juice on the bottom of the bun.</p>
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<p><strong>The fries</strong> were solid. Puffy and potatoey yet still crispy, just like I had asked for.</p>
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<p>Overall I would not recommend going out of your way for this burger.   If you live near Bayside and you used to go to pre-renovation Donovan&#8217;s, you&#8217;re going to be disappointed with the burger. The waitress also pitched the French Onion Soup, which was also awesome at old-Donovan&#8217;s but I couldn&#8217;t vouch for the new one. I was told some of the kitchen staff stayed on but <span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman';"></span>apparently not the right burger personnel. It seems like the new Donovan&#8217;s is aiming for style and ambiance over a quality burger, a casualty that&#8217;s blatantly obvious just by looking at the name change: <strong>Donovan&#8217;s Pub (Tim Allen &#8220;Tool Time&#8221; Grunt) is now Donovan&#8217;s Grill and Tavern (dainty sigh).<br />
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